• Doomsider@lemmy.world
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    Can’t find clean drinking water, just cut back… Brought to you by the ruling class who is using up and poisoning all the water.

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        It’s possible, but the spikes and drops in metabolic rates doesn’t work for everybody. If you’re fit and healthy you can probably handle it, but many people need more steady metabolism throughout the day.

        Also, your body can only absorb so many nutrients at once. If you try packing all your daily requirements into one meal, you’re going to shit a lot of it out. You might absorb all 2000 calories or whatever, but most of the vitamins, proteins, etc. are going to get flushed down your toilet

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              It wouldn’t be enough even if you use your brain slightly more than what needed to doomscroll all day

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              I worked construction around 18-19. I was a skinny kid, like 130lbs. After working all day the boss would order in food. I once ate an entire large pizza and drank a 2 liter bottle of coke.

              Now that I work from home its a lot less LOL

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                TBF, at eighteen years old one can eat three large pizzas in a row and not make a dent in their weight. When I came home after a school day, I’d discover a full pan of fried potatoes and chow down half of it right at the stove.

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              Well yes, now that you mention it, I’m a professional doom scroller. I do active stuff occasionally, my metabolism is how incredibly slow from endocrine issues and age :(

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    Looked at the article, and it starts off pretty stupid

    While everyone else seems to be slugging H20 from 40-ounce Stanley tumblers, I have never understood the appeal of drinking plain, tasteless water all day.

    Some people live in areas where the water tastes bad, but seeing the water as “boring” might mean that you’re drinking too much of the other stuff (soft drinks, juice, sugary etc). It’s not that those other things are not hydrating, but they’re unhealthy for other reasons.

    The question feels more pressing than ever given rising temperatures, heat waves

    I refuse to normalize a world where people lack access to clean drinking water. 😠

    The rest of the article is pretty standard advice. There’s no set amount of water that everyone needs to drink, and your diet/lifestyle/body composition/the weather will all play a role. Going based on thirst is a good indicator, but make sure you actually drink water when you’re thirsty. !hydrohomies@lemmy.ml

    But using that to justify unequal access to clean drinking water is a big no.

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      too much of the other stuff

      or that you’re a shill , writing a seo prop piece knowing full well coke is a financial supporter of your “newspaper”

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        And I think it’s even broader: If I’m drinking water, I’m not buying any other drinks. I’m not supporting the economy, I’m only drinking water.

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          I’m looking forward to the economic collapse of all junk food & junk drinks as humans get wiser & altogether stop buying that toxic shit.

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              Truthfully I think although the rising generation is increasingly illiterate, they’ve at least been eschewing alcohol & junk food.

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                Agreed. They’re outwardly health conscious, although they have no problem putting random shit in their bodies if it makes them healthier.

                My generation, we were poisoning ourselves with booze, but we know what booze is.

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      And if you’re in the subset of people who struggle to register thirst, either through perceiving it as hunger or just not registering it at all; use the pee test.

      If your last pee was yellow, drink some water. If clear or nearly clear, you’re fine.

      If brown, drink lots of water and pray to Dionysus to become hydrated before the hangover kicks in.

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        Fully clear usually means stop drinking water for now. It signifies you have had a bit too much water

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      The author of the article seems to think people use water bottles because they justlike, enjoy drinking water constsntly for no reason. (Its fine if you do) Or some “misguided” advice about how much to drink daily.

      When people probably just carry them so when they are thirsty, they have something cheap and not unhealthy to drink.

    • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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      Going based on thirst is a good indicator,

      After many visits for my daughter with different doctors, all of which were different specializations, the consistent advice from all of them was “going by thirst” is absolutely wrong.

      They each said if you wait to be thirsty, you are already dehydrated.

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        You should drink whenever you want to, or are mentally thirsty. That being said, after many years of being a child in school (water fountains tasted like drinking chalk), i had to train myself to feel thirsty again without being dehydrated. Probably a safer bet to just go by pee color or have a cup or two of water at dinner/during exercise.

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      The question feels more pressing than ever given rising temperatures, heat waves

      All the more reason to drink fucking water!

      Holy shit, sometimes wish journalists could be disbarred but I know that would create a slew of other problems…

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      While everyone else seems to be slugging H20 from 40-ounce Stanley tumblers, I have never understood the appeal of drinking plain, tasteless water all day.

      The question feels more pressing than ever given rising temperatures, heat waves

      The combination of these two takes has to be among the dumbest things I’ve ever read, what do they think those other drinks are made of? I’m entirely certain that the process of making another drink uses up more water than just drinking that volume of water in the first place.

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        everyone else seems to be slugging H20 from 40-ounce Stanley tumblers

        It just occurred to me that all these people lugging around Stanleys or whatever, I wonder what percentage of them have something other than water in there? 🤔 Sugary drinks, energy drinks, alcohol? Y’know there’s a non-zero chance that some people are merely MASQUERADING as hydrohomies.

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          I have even better - I3P. Iodine, check. No goiters here. 3, widely believed to be the next highest whole number (citation needed). Phosphorus, check. Good for flower/fruit production.

          Put it all together, you might get grapefruit sized growths, but they won’t be goiters.

          Next problem please.

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      I often add some squash to water, but it barely has any sugar in it and I often go for fairly dilute. Like just a hint of berry, orange or lemon.

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    Lol, 1 liter is nothing. But yeah okay, it could be a liter of water for the poor thirsty AI data centres.

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    Three article boils down to the author being a whiny WSJ entitled asshole, which is what I expect from the WSJ.

    Author, you don’t need the 40 oz cup.

    Quoted Expert, you need around 125 oz a day.

    Author, but water is so boring and tasteless, I want sugar and you get a fraction of water from food right? I don’t wanna drink water. Written Toddler Tantrum ensues

    Author, so in conclusion you don’t need that 40 oz water cup.

    The rest of us, STFU you entitled twat.

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      125 / 40 = approx 3.

      That’s really an absurdly huge cup if it is about 1/3 of your entire daily water intake.

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      That is likely exactly what that propaganda piece is for. “Don’t drink water, it’s silly anyway!”

      Coupled with pushing sales of beverages for money.

      I figure when the datacenter bubble bursts, the tech companies will keep consuming the same amounts of water and just start selling it.

      Gotta find some way to the plot of The Water Knife. (Book has gas pumps that sell water, water meters next to sinks and showers, etc.)

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      This was my first thought. Are they trying to pull some bs like that. But also the wsj is a disgrace

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    Right wing newspapers love to do this shit where I live. We get into a crisis, people start skipping meals because they don’t have money, and they will talk about the health benefits of dieting and fasting 🙄

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        Have you tried this new drug, Nofudatall? Take it in place of your normal three meals and watch the pounds of fatand muscle boil away.

        Poverty is surprisingly expensive, but you can get Nofudatall for freewith qualifying insurance plans !

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      right wingers have a serious problem with comprehending the idea of consent. is dieting and fasting good for you? yeah sure, when done right. but is being forced to do that good for you? hell no, even if there are health benefits you didn’t choose to do that. and in the next sentence they’ll preach about freedom

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        Yes. That happens when all your food comes from the dollar store and the gas station mini-mart, and you drive everywhere.

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        Health is, ultimately, the product of diet and exercise/physical activity. You get out what you put in. Everybody knows this.

        The problem is…one of the problems, for there are many…ok so a few of the problems are, as others have pointed out…ultimately come down to housing and city planning.

        The problem is, we somehow can’t figure out how to get diverse, fresh food, within a walkable/bikeable distance of everybody. So that leaves a few options:

        • Be car-dependent, or
        • Buy shelf-stable (or frozen, or more preservative than foodstuff) food from a place within walking distance (which also means buying no more than what you can carry at a time), or
        • Dine-in, take-out, or drive-thru

        It also doesn’t help that most American’s are overworked and can’t find half an hour to cook an actual meal, let alone sit down and enjoy it. We’re all burning the candle on both ends trying to make ends meet. And our food selections allow us to pick two out of “fast, cheap, healthy”.

        • Cheap and Healthy? Will cost you time.
        • Fast and Healthy? Will cost you money.
        • Fast and Cheap? Will cost you health.

        We don’t have a surplus of any of those things…but the one that’s easiest to ignore (until it isn’t) is health. And so that’s the bank we draw our credit on.

        Now add car-dependency on top, and we can find the time to at least go grocery shopping maybe once a week. We find the fresh produce is expensive (and probably also harboring parasites), and won’t last a whole week in the fridge…but we also kinda feel like maybe we should eat a vegetable every now and then, so we get some…but most of the groceries are gonna have to last that whole week, and will need to be fast and cheap…

        It sucks, but hey, it’s the best country in the world (or so I was told through 12 years of forced education).

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    Do not my friends, become addicted to water! It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!

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    Except it’s completely true - rare for WSJ, I know, but not completely unheard of. The weird hype around really unnecessarily excessive water intake is “Facebook Grandma Nutrition”-level bullshit. Healthy people have a reliable, fine-tuned mechanism for figuring out when water is needed: it’s called being fucking thirsty

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        over an entire day, sure. needing to carry a 1.2l container around all day seems to me overkill. carry a smaller bottle, refill it when needed, drink a glass of water with your meals etc. remember, juice, tea, coffee, coke etc are mostly water and also count towards your water intake

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          carry a smaller bottle, refill it when needed

          Depending on where you live, you may not have access to a fountain by the time you need more. I carry around slightly less large bottle (1L) and you can bet your ass I had gone through it on the days when I had to be outside in 100+F/38+C weather for hours, and I got home thirsty. It is way better to have too much water and not need it than to not have enough and need it.

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      Sadly that is something many people can’t rely upon. I am not that old, and have a tendency to get pretty dehydrated before i get thirsty at all. Old people are famous for getting so dehydrated that they get delirious - ask any nurse working in a hospital, they will agree that this is the case. With summer temperatures rising this will hit a lot more people of the already affected groups, and additional groups which are not sensitized yet towards that issue.

      I agree that most people do not need to drink 3 liters of water per day. But what happens is that people aim for that amount and then land somewhere around 1.5-2 liters / day, which is a pretty good amount for normal days, and they will be more alert towards their water intake on hot days, which prevents deaths.

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        Thirst is something no one can rely on. This is the same information I got from multiple doctors each in different fields.

        By the time you register thirst, you are already dehydrated.

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          There is a difference between “drinking a glass of water wouldn’t hurt you” and “you are dehydrated and it is medically relevant”. Every organism on this planet can easily cope with a reduction in available water if it isn’t severe. The operating conditions of a human body, if formalized, would only state a minimum of water intake, because the optimal amount of hydration varies wildly from person to person, and it is also dependent on outside circumstances, like heavy work or high temperatures.

          During the winter months, i am completely fine with around 1 liter of fluid intake per day most of the time when sedentary. During the last 2 months, i have topped out at around 7 liters/day (i do sweat a lot), which made me a bit nervous and i made sure to increase my normally very low salt intake a bit, to prevent running out of electrolytes.

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            “you are dehydrated and it is medically relevant”

            Which is why “thirsty” as an indicator is the problem. It is your body telling you there is already a problem.

            Every organism on this planet can easily cope

            You can easily cope with all manner of problems. You can go 2 months without Vitamin C. You shouldn’t wait until you develop the first signs of scurvy before eating an orange.

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              I just wanted to emphasize that optimal fluid intake is not a simple number - anyone peddling that is full of shit.

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      Reposting because this is completely wrong.

      After many visits for my daughter with different doctors, all of which were different specializations, the consistent advice from all of them was “going by thirst” is absolutely wrong.

      They each said if you wait to be thirsty, you are already dehydrated.

      It was news to me because I grew up with “drink when you are thirsty”.

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      Yeah, until that mechanism isn’t working anymore, as distraction nowadays is a real issue. Too often I forget about water intake if I don’t have water next to me.

      Additionally, go ask dermatologist what they think about water intake. You can literally see differences in skin health, especially long-term damage which cannot be reversed.

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      If you’re lugging a gallon of water to work in an air-conditioned office, then yea, maybe reconsider

      40oz seems reasonable tho