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    I call it now, if the democrats pick a candidate that actively opposes Israel he will be misteriously murdered before the election.

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    I demand much more. I want trials for war crimes. But, you know, ABUNDANCE of some shit.

    The present Dems party has proven time and again that they’ll fight their base rather than work for them. Repubs have a huge leg up in this area. They adapt. They get crazier. They elevate lunatics. That’s why they win. We need Leftists who say, “eff you” to moderates and right-leaning Dems (which is basically all Dems).

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      The present Dems party

      We can change that to a great degree in the Midterms. The new people coming in will not be the same old Corpo-Establishment Losers that helped MAGA take over. They will want to fight, ad we have to back them vociferously, and slap down the old guard losers HARSHLY, starting with voting out Schmuck & Jeffries as leaders. They are Manchurian MAGAs, and they’ve already been making plans with MAGA to back down when they take over.

      The Dems are where the Republicans were in 2010, with the Tea Party kicking down the door. The Tea Party was the real beginning of the Fascist wave that took over their party, and the 2026 Midterms can be the beginning of the new Democratic Socialist wave that takes over the Dems.

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    Fuck Isreal, bomb Russia into compliance, Medicare for all, abortion on demand. Those are my least radical items that need support for a vote.

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      I say end all participation in all wars. No more guns, bombs, or weapons for anyone. Focus on domestic infrastructure and services.

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        Isolationism didn’t work a century ago, stop trying it. You can ignore countries ran by warmongering maniacs, but they won’t ignore you.

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    More recently, the AIPAC strategy on Israel is to splinter where it sends money and attack candidates on grounds fully independent of Israel.

    Maine was a great example of this in action (for better or worse). Platner was taken down (belatedly) based on his history of infidelity and misogynist violence. Francesca Hong lost to David Crowley largely because of the endless harping on her excessively-Woke views on Thanksgiving. El-Sayed is facing a deluge of TERFism going into the general, paid for by a constellation of Zionist-backed media. Mamdani getting an endless hate-parade from the NYPost on anything tangentially related to cops.

    I suspect the AIPAC playbook is going to look very similar to the New Labour playbook in the UK. You’ll get smeared from every angle except support for Palestine.

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      Candidates lose when nobody endorses them. In Hong’s case she could’ve pulled through with a Bernie or AOC endorsement.

      The other 2 should’ve never entered. Campaigns are popularity contests and if you know you’re unlikely to win voters or have skeletons in your closet you should stay home or work for somebody else’s campaign.

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    The establishment doesn’t take demands. You are their bitch as far as they are concerned.

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      True but then they dont get our votes, even if it means a republican win. I feel like every election they hold us hostage to whatever awful positions they can sell us all out for, and I dont feel like allowing that anymore. They make a good platform and stick with it, or they are fired.

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    Optimistic to think that there will be legit elections in 2028. Watch this next election. Mail in voting is fucked., Trump is going to put his ICE stasi at polling places to suppress turnout, and there will likely be violence. Even if democrats win control, there will be claims of voter fraud and a refusal to swear them in. Mark my words, the MAGA era won’t end until the U.S. is in total collapse and they are physically removed. What the people want doesn’t matter, as MAGA has seized control and ejected from military leadership those who oppose them. Things are going to get a whole lot worse before they can get better.

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      ICE can stand there with their fat bellies and overpriced colored mirror Costa del Mar sunglasses all the fuck they want, and watch me go vote for people who don’t have an orange ring around their mouths.

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        Costa del Mar sunglasses

        Never heard of these, but looking at them, they do seem to be the choice of losers everywhere.

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      Ironic, since this comment also seems to have the goal of suppressing voter turnout.

      It is necessary to point out the shit that Trump et al are doing, and to also express concern that traditional methods of change such as voting are at risk and may not work as they should, but do not try to convince others that it’s pointless to even try. At best you come off as someone who has given up on democracy and are advocating for an immediate violent revolt, and at worst you sound like a fascist plant.

      *This isn’t to say that a violent revolt might not be necessary in the end, it very well may; but when there’s still a chance to elect more progressive leadership to save this country from fascism, we have to try. Turning to violence should be a last resort, and while we are unfortunately absolutely getting appallingly close to it, this wave of progressive support means we aren’t there quite yet, and there is other work to be done

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        That was not my intent. I just call it like I see it. By all means, everyone should get out and vote.

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          Ok good. Totally understandable to be skeptical and angry, hell, fucking furious at the situation we find ourselves in. I just wanted to emphasize (not even necessarily to you, but to anyone who might be reading) it’s important not to give up on things like activism and voting while they might still have an effect.

          Again this next part isn’t aimed at you but rather at everyone, but there’s a concept I’ve seen here on Lemmy a few times lately that is very appropriate for our current situation called the four boxes of liberty that basically says that there are 4 boxes citizens can use to defend liberty / prevent fascism; the soap box (free speech), ballot box, jury box, and ammo box. It seems like the upcoming elections may be our last opportunity to utilize the soap and ballot boxes, and since the jury box already seems to be almost entirely either corrupted or populated with limp-dick cowards, the ammo box might indeed be just around the corner. Still, we gotta try the soap and ballot while we still can

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        If lying to people to achieve the common good (which is to say better than the common worst) worked, the democrats would be in power.

        You are the reason we lose, not the one you are trashing. Enough lies.

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      I don’t recall us actually having a choice between dems to vote for, so this criticism seems disingenuous at best… she was better than trump, almost anyone is, but a primary would likely have resulted in a better candidate.

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      You have a source for that 94% poll?

      Maybe 94% of self described democrats, I have to tell you I got a lot higher percent of agreement amongst people that vote democratic arguing to nominate someone that doesn’t suck so much. I was roundly shouted down but still got support.

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          That’s a poll between a Harris and Trump in California after she’d already been selected as the nominee you disingenuous twat.

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              What the fuck do you think you’re trying to show here? That’s another poll from even closer to the election about approval for an already selected candidate. Do you read the things you post?

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              That is interesting thanks for sharing. I feel like this is a push poll or that gallup there disingenuously explained what people were agreeing to.

              Although to be fair some of the actual leftists I know, including the more radical ones, were not aware kamala was going to lose. I did.

              41% of independents and 8% of republicans approved of her in the same poll.

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                I thought (and still do) Kamala was the best chance at the time and circumstance, but I could tell that it would be a heavy lift for her to succeed. Enough Indies and Republicans bought into the obvious lies from the GOP campaign and nearly every incumbent party was being voted out all over the world so I also saw it coming. Especially so, when my feed filled up with tons of hope-ium from progressive pundits and influencers. Outside of perhaps the late great Dolly Parton, I don’t think anyone would have beaten the GOP candidate in 2024.

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                  Pfft. Quite wrong, kamala was the worst choice. Either Newsom (whom I hate and will now lose in 2028,) or pritzker could’ve won with a few popular positions and a little fight.

                  Kamala didn’t win a single state campaigning in 2020, is hated on the left and right, is a lifelong piece of shit, never breached 30% approval the entire term to Biden’s fine debating skills were displayed to the nation, and didn’t offer a single sincere reform.

                  How can you guys trust the establishment on electability, after Hilary, Biden, and Kamala. This is why I am out of politics. You guys are sheep.