• N0t_5ure@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Optimistic to think that there will be legit elections in 2028. Watch this next election. Mail in voting is fucked., Trump is going to put his ICE stasi at polling places to suppress turnout, and there will likely be violence. Even if democrats win control, there will be claims of voter fraud and a refusal to swear them in. Mark my words, the MAGA era won’t end until the U.S. is in total collapse and they are physically removed. What the people want doesn’t matter, as MAGA has seized control and ejected from military leadership those who oppose them. Things are going to get a whole lot worse before they can get better.

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      ICE can stand there with their fat bellies and overpriced colored mirror Costa del Mar sunglasses all the fuck they want, and watch me go vote for people who don’t have an orange ring around their mouths.

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        Costa del Mar sunglasses

        Never heard of these, but looking at them, they do seem to be the choice of losers everywhere.

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      Ironic, since this comment also seems to have the goal of suppressing voter turnout.

      It is necessary to point out the shit that Trump et al are doing, and to also express concern that traditional methods of change such as voting are at risk and may not work as they should, but do not try to convince others that it’s pointless to even try. At best you come off as someone who has given up on democracy and are advocating for an immediate violent revolt, and at worst you sound like a fascist plant.

      *This isn’t to say that a violent revolt might not be necessary in the end, it very well may; but when there’s still a chance to elect more progressive leadership to save this country from fascism, we have to try. Turning to violence should be a last resort, and while we are unfortunately absolutely getting appallingly close to it, this wave of progressive support means we aren’t there quite yet, and there is other work to be done

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        That was not my intent. I just call it like I see it. By all means, everyone should get out and vote.

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          Ok good. Totally understandable to be skeptical and angry, hell, fucking furious at the situation we find ourselves in. I just wanted to emphasize (not even necessarily to you, but to anyone who might be reading) it’s important not to give up on things like activism and voting while they might still have an effect.

          Again this next part isn’t aimed at you but rather at everyone, but there’s a concept I’ve seen here on Lemmy a few times lately that is very appropriate for our current situation called the four boxes of liberty that basically says that there are 4 boxes citizens can use to defend liberty / prevent fascism; the soap box (free speech), ballot box, jury box, and ammo box. It seems like the upcoming elections may be our last opportunity to utilize the soap and ballot boxes, and since the jury box already seems to be almost entirely either corrupted or populated with limp-dick cowards, the ammo box might indeed be just around the corner. Still, we gotta try the soap and ballot while we still can

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        If lying to people to achieve the common good (which is to say better than the common worst) worked, the democrats would be in power.

        You are the reason we lose, not the one you are trashing. Enough lies.