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I think more boobs would be good in most national anthems
Norway mentiones how the Olaf Haraldson died the “martyr” death in 1030 while trying to make Norway christian. The entire second verse is about the early medieval kings. The stanza in the second verse reads something like this: “…On the country Olav painted the cross with his blood”
Welsh national anthem mentions blood
Just nobody can understand it.
Where does the Star Spangled Banner mention blood?
3rd stanza. In school I think we never went beyond the first stanza.
Their blood has wash’d out their foul footstep’s pollution
metal asf
Do the other verses count if nobody knows them?
I legitimately thought they were bullshiting until I went and looked it up. In my 40-some years on planet earth, I have never heard anyone sing the song beyond the first stanza. The song having multiple stanzas has never even been brought up.
Verse 3. Well beyond the usual first verse recitation.
Australia is the only anthem who mentions how girt we are
one of the iterations of Ukraine’s national anthem lyrics from early 20th century had blood mentioned in the context of dark past history of wars and occupation and how our people persist in spite of everything. that bit wasn’t in the original poem and its musical adaptation which was about glorious past and wishful bright future. then there was late 20th iteration that replaced that bit with a bloody battle going from the river San to river Don. San and Don rivers were previously mentioned as abstract furthest points of slavic people agglomeration. That version also mentions river Dnipro in a different part and calls it Granpa Dnipro.
Does this imply that some anthems ironically mention boobs?
The state flag of Virginia has boobs on it, also an active call for violence. Not the same, but its in the spirit of the post.
The Austrian anthem doesn’t mention blood anywhere. It mentions “heart”, as in “in the heart of Europe”
The myth of how the flag came to be mentions it I suppose … the red parts are blood, the white was covered and so not bloodied.
Yep, unless they count Austrias “secret anthem” by Reinhardt Fendrich - I am from Austria, which references blood.
i don’t think they are aware of that
But it’s the only way that the word “blood” might be connected to the austrian anthem at all. Only the word “Heart” appears, as in “heart of Europe”. They probably asked an LLM.
far from wildest shit it can pull.
Yeah, if you ask often enough LLMs probably accuse Austrians of cannibalism and institutionally enforced incest.
well, i once convinced Claude that Claude Shannon don’t exist. everything is possible.
Breaking LLMs is seriously fun btw lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhi6JU5pOJk
Oh, you mean they knew the real anthem? ;) The one people actually know the lyrics to.
I always find it funny when the far right voters are singing it whole hartedly.
I really do not like austropop (outside of the EAV, courtesy of my childhood), but even i know those lyrics by heart.
And yes, it is very funny - it’s similar to republicans thinking Rage against the Machine became woke lol
I am much disappoint. Looking it up, I find that Brazil has four songs: the national anthem, the anthem of the republic, the flag anthem, and the anthem of independence. None of them mention boobs, and one of them does mention blood.
You mean my unsourced internet meme was misleading, uninformed, or otherwise inaccurate? The idea of it! Next you’ll tell me not to form an opinion on headlines alone!
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_National_Anthem#Lyrics
Em teu seio, ó liberdade
That’s not boobs. Every translation that I found had it as “bosom” in English, referring to the chest area. I mean, maybe some people have liberty in their tiddies, but that seems unusual.
I have liberty in my tits. They demand freedom!
I have never heard the word bosom refer to anything but boobs. Its like a polite term for titties.
The Battle Hymn of the Republic mentions Jesus’s boobs, then.
It’s used quite often to mean chest. It’s a fill in for saying “breast”, which is usually meaning “inside one’s chest, near to their heart”.
There’s a quote attributed to Albert Einstein though I found no source to which is “Anger dwells only in the bosom of fools”, which shows this application.
Shakespear also has Isabella say in Measure for Measure, act 2 scene 2 “Go to your bosom: knock there, and ask your heart what it doth know.”, which seems most accurately to be describing the chest more vaguely.
I think that these two show how ‘in [one’s] bosom’ often poetically means 'near [one’s] heart", or ‘close to [one’s] chest’. The chest isn’t the point of sentence, it’s more a reference point for describing the actual subject location.
Yeah it seems like it began meaning chest, became a polite way of saying boobs, and eventually the latter edged out the former. Mind you this is in English and the line in question is Portuguese so maybe arguing English semantics isn’t helping us get close to the truth.
If anyone here speaks Portuguese I’d love to hear if that word has any of these implications in Portuguese.
the word “seios” nowadays is largely equivelent to “breasts” but it seems like it meant chest more generally in past
Makes sense, I guess bosom is an excellent translation then lol
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/portuguese-english/seio has breast as the first translation.
Also, even in English, “bosom” is generally taken to be the polite way to say breast 99% of the time even if it /can/ mean the chest area. I think you’re just being contrarian.
because the common use of it nowadays means “breasts”, the lyrics were written over a hundred years ago, that does not mean that that was the most common usage at the time or the intended one
They’re not contrarian, bosom can refer to breasts but that’s not the only definition. I’m pretty sure it’s not even the primary definition for the majority of the word’s existence.
I don’t really want to link a bible site but take your pick and search for the word. 50+ references and it rarely meant boobs. It meant…the area of hugging. How could a man put his hands between his tits? Cradling a child is holding it in your bosom. A baby doesn’t suck milk from bosoms.
Bosom meant the chest area even if it generally only used to mean breasts nowadays.
How could a man put his hands between his tits?
Well, if he is very fat, has gynecomastia, or has not gotten top surgery yet, so technically…
‘bosom’ is unisex tho, men have chests too, but not boobies
Ok, try complimenting a man on his bosom and see how he reacts.
Nice pecs bro
And the second is heart, which is much more fitting in the context.
You might read it that way, but it doesn’t make the other reading wrong the way that user SwingingTheLamp was suggesting.
No, reading it in that way is wrong. The lyrics are talking about the land, the country. Not a person. In context it can only mean heart or core, not breast.
The translation is wrong. I don’t know where that anthem comes but in french, sein means core. In its “sein” means at its core, deeply rooted
Sein also means breast in french
I won’t take that rage bait
“Seio” in Portuguese means “breast” and is used to refer to boobs.
Yes, seio can mean breast in Portuguese, but that’s clearly not what it means in this context. It’s being used figuratively to mean “within” or “at the heart of”, just like sein in French.
A word having multiple meanings doesn’t make them interchangeable. Translating seio as “boobs” here is simply a mistranslation, regardless of whether it makes a funny joke.
This is a meme sub
Is this a meme conversation? A meme point that youre trying to make?
Like chicken breast?
no
Right, but then the joke doesn’t work :/
Thailand’s national anthem is smuttier, then, since it talks about holding Thai people in boobs, not just an abstract concept like liberty!
The only blood in the Australian national anthem is the blood dripping from my ears after listening to it
Your ears are girt by blood?
And this is how I learned there were 4 verses to the star spangled banner https://www.lyricsondemand.com/n/nationalanthemlyrics/usanationalanthemlyrics.html
Do the other 3 verses count if nobody knows them?
I thought verse two was: “Play ball!”
No, it’s “Gentleman, start your engines!!”
True americans know that it’s…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBYdJjcoo4A
The most patrioticly american moment ever on television.
I also would’ve accepted “Boogity, Boogity, Boogity, Amen.”
I don’t know, while that one is iconic I’m not sure it actually synthesizes the true spirit of america quite like starting off the Oscar Mayer Weiner 500 like that…
I heard that we were able to identify spies because of this. Apparently they were taught the full anthem whereas Americans do not recite the full one. It’s funny to imagine these spies thinking they’re absolutely killing it and the Americans looking at each other like “we gotta get rid of them, huh”.
The full length is the poem, the anthem is just the first verse.
Same. I have never in my life heard anything after “O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave”
The song sucks anyway, there I said it.
If you think about it, it ends in a question.
O say, does that Star-Spangled Banner yet wave,
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?Second stanza answers it.
On the shore dimly seen through the mists of the deep
Where the foe’s haughty host in dread silence reposes
What is that which the breeze o’er the towering steep
As it fitfully blows half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning’s first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines on the stream,
‘Tis the Star-Spangled Banner, O long may it wave,
O’er the land of the free, and the home of the brave!
Yeah its pretty fucked up.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave
The fuck?
This verse is referring to the british, not menial laborers or chattel slaves. “Hirelings” was (is?) an insulting term to describe a mercenary, and the implication is that they are either brigands who are only in it for a pittance wage, rubes who do it because of a loyalty to the monarchy and/or impressed soldiers of the british (a practice with many parallels to chattel slavery, for what that’s worth). A modern version might call them “sheep” with a similar implication.
And it’s important to add, one of the cassi belli for the war of 1812 was the british impressment of sailors on American vessels, including American citizens.
Well, except Britain promised freedom to slaves that fought for their cause, so I still assume it means slaves in the literal sense.
Kinda fucked the US didn’t do the same given the whole fight for freedom bit…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans_in_the_Revolutionary_War
The song was written about the war of 1812, not the revolutionary war.
As the wikipedia article points out, during the revolutionary war most of the black Patriots were recruited from the north already as free men of color and were at the time lionized for their actions (albeit in predictably racist terms) - and abolition would take over the north quite quickly afterwards (most having some form of abolition well before 1800). The first continental congress also banned the import of slaves in 1774 (though abolitionists cheered it at the time and rightly so, it should be said that this was primairly a method of applying economic pressure to the british), and would set up the civil war by doing so.
The US National Anthem is the only one in the whole world that mentions bombs.
USA USA USA! But for real, we started the war, yes, but we had reasonable cassus belli (embargoing our trade with france and kidnapping our seamen into the british navy) and the poem is about a defensive battle.
I still think our national anthem should be a secularized version of the battle hymn of the republic.
The only one that explicitly mentions them, yep. It’s a recounting of the british attack on a US fort during the war of 1812, which was attacked by, among other things, british bomb ships (mortar carriers). The actual bombs being referenced would be called shells in the modern era. Interestingly many others refer to guns and cannons and incoming fire and etc. as well; China’s makes explicit reference to being shelled (tho as I have had it explained, it’s also a bit of quite clever wordplay: 冒着敌人的炮火，前进 can mean both “withstand their (physical) guns/cannons” and “stand up in the face of their (metaphorical) aggression”)
Which is weird, since it was written in 1814, and I can’t think of any bombs that burst in the air back then other than fireworks. Were they shooting fireworks in a battle?
The British Navy fired mortars — whose projectiles can explode midair — from bomb ships to bombard Fort McHenry, along with using Congreve rockets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baltimore
Lobbing fused rounds has been a thing as long as we’ve been lobbing things that explode.
good thing there’s no new Zealand
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Neither the Austrian nor the German national anthem mention blood?
I think they do in the secret stanzas where they list all the types of sausages
They both at mention a heart which… might be why they were included? But I think this map may just be AI or recaptioned from something else because thats a bit of a stretch to call blood.
edit: USA, China & mexico both overtly mention blood though… Maybe it really is the heart thing? Though if that were true then Canada should be on there too. Idkwtf
edit 2: and the Brazilian anthem is disappointing given the way it’s brought up in the OP; it’s not a crass use of it like “boob” but very much akin to “my heart beat in my breast” or “nurtured by your bosom”. By that metric a ton of other countries also feature tiddy anthems.
If thats a question, yes, germany does not use the first two verses of the national anthem any more. The nazis made those uncomfortable.
The first two stanzas of “the song of the Germans” doesn’t mention it either I think.
The third stanza (which is the national anthem in its entirety) is more aspirational than a look back on history.
“Unity and Justice and Freedom… Let’s strive for that… May it blossom in the light of this happiness” and so on.Austria is painted red tho.
Austria is painted red tho.
Despite their “Bundeshymne” does not contain the word “Blut”.
Yet, neither of the 3 verses of the Deutschlandlied mentions blood.
The first mentions only geographic terms (“von der Maas bis an die Memel, von der Etsch bis an den Belt”) and brotherly connection for protection and defence.
The second verse mentions women, loyality, wine and singing.
Only the third verse, on unity, right and freedom, is considered the national anthem of the Federal Republic.Edit: Austria is painted in red on the map despite their “Bundeshymne” (federal hymn) doesn’t contain the word “Blut” (‘blood’).
