Just switched Zorin for Win11 on my kids computer (yes, it did hurt and still does 😭). His friends play Fortnite and he felt left out. Windows is the only option if he want to play?

Btw downloaded newest Microslop Windows 11, but still during installation there was a gust from the past; I had to use my other computer to download the wifi card driver, which I had to “select from disk” when installing 😂 in 2026!! (tplink ex3000). Worked flawless on Linux.

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    My kids use Fedora, and hate windows with passion (I wonder where they get that from), so they only play games that work in Linux and they can play on steam. Their friends and cousins have adapted to them, instead of the other way around (though I’m pretty sure they still play Fortnite and other ‘winblows only’ shot without my kids). I made my kids understand that anyone that does not respect their wish to control their own lives and privacy is not worth keeping around anyway, and it has worked fine so far. Also, they have time limits for gaming and watching TV, they read and play music instruments way more than using any type of tech.

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        Make no mistake, it’s a real chore getting kids to understand, but showing them scary shit that happens to others out there for not taking care of their privacy is a seriously useful crutch. I think I’ve made my kids as paranoid as I am, they even bitch at my wife every so often about her still using WhatsApp 🤣

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    If you don’t have to deal with kids it’s hard to explain how dominant Fortnite is. The problem with Fortnite here is that it’s essentially crack for kids, and when I hear people saying “they should make Fortnite work in Linux” I hear “drug dealers should sell their goods in nice places”. It’s not in the pusher’s interest to make their pay-per-hit product usable in any way that empowers the addict.

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      tbf they announced they would be bringing it to linux. hell is chilly cold autumn day atm.

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        To be honest, my view of Fortnite is kids buying expensive skins. In Roblox, I’ve seen people creating games and kids are less pushed towards spending money.

        I’ve seen my son waste a lot of his allowance in Fortnite and almost none in Roblox.

        But, to be honest, while I’ve watched him play, I never played myself…

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    You took liberating software off of your kids computer so they could do brainrot with their friends.

    Pretty sad state of affairs if you ask me.

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      My kid’s playing with his friends is more important to me than my principles on software 😊

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      Yes, the child should be forced to accept that the liberating freedom of a particular operating system is markedly superior than being able to play games with their friends.

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    Maybe you should try to tell her Roblox is better as I managed to have it working on my Steam Dech through Sober and Vinegar.

    We used to keep our Playstation 5 for this, but lately he only plays on the Steam Deck so I’m considering selling it.

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    Tech your kids that how other os do stuff, and who knows he might find it interesting.

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    Had a look, Epic refuses to let Fortnight run on proton bc it would add value to the steam deck

    (⁠╯⁠°⁠□⁠°⁠)⁠╯⁠︵⁠ ⁠┻⁠━⁠┻

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        For me, and probably 99.99% of Lemmy users, sure. I was talking to the daughter of a family friend recently (somewhere around 16yo), and her dad uses Linux (not for gaming), and I asked what she used. She said Windows, because “you can’t game on Linux.” I asked what she played, because almost every game works fine, and she said Fortnite. She’s in a family where one of the parents at least is anti-Windows, but she can’t really switch because of that game. I’d much rather it worked with Linux so those kids wouldn’t be left out if they switch. The alternative is them just not switching, which is worse.

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    Probably just a waiting game, then. Epic is bringing their client to Linux (supposedly), but it’s unknown when.

    As a second option, have you considered dual booting, with Linux as the default? Then you/he can still have the benefit of Linux most of the time with Windows as a backup for the problematic games.

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      They can make an Epic client without Fortnite. The problem is that anti-cheat on Linux is fundamentally incompatible with software freedom. Because anti cheat is intended to prevent you from controlling your computer.

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        To be clear, I believe you are talking about kernel-level anticheat?

        I once read that kernel anticheat is the lazy option. Devs can supposedly combat cheating without that, but it takes effort (meaning $$$).

        So Fortnite could come to Linux, but Epic would have to fundamentally change how they deal with cheating, and the CEO doesn’t seem the type to give a shit about that.

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          And why should they? The bottom line is the bottom line. It doesn’t make any business sense to spend money to change your anti cheat mechanism so you can capture a tiny group of users. The incentive just isn’t there

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          Epic’s anti cheat support Linux, the CEO refuses(-ed) to use it in their own games because they hate Linux.

          Talking out of my ass, i think this shift is one of two things. The first would be their customers wanting to target Steam Deck having doubts of Epic’s anti cheat capacity in Linux. If they don’t support it in their own games (and Rocket League had Linux support before being bought out). The other is they want to launch their own Linux based console with their Store pre-installed. They’ve always wanted to have a store front, to the point they challenged Google and Apple for a bigger piece of the pie. Today, this last part is unlikely considering the price of components.

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      The issue with that setup is, if Fortnite is one of the primary things he does, he’s just going to stay on windows and never use the linux install. Nothing is more annoying than having to constantly reboot into a new OS since it requires closing everything out. It would likely end up being a Windows default and occasionally swapping to linux (more realistically just never swapping to linux)

      That flow is what I do though, I have both Debian and Windows 10 installed and default to Linux, but thats also because I don’t play a game that hard requires windows to function, so my usage of the OS is strictly hardware/firmware updates and the once or twice a year that I do have a game that straight doesn’t work on linux at all.

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          you missed the second half of the post

          but thats also because I don’t play a game that hard requires windows to function, so my usage of the OS is strictly hardware/firmware updates and the once or twice a year that I do have a game that straight doesn’t work on linux at all.

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    There’s a launcher for Linux that allows you to run the Android version of Minecraft Bedrock Edition. Is there a similar thing for Fortnite?

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    If normal win11 gives you problems you can still use win10 21h2 iot ltsc till 2032 with security updates and win11 iot ltsc to avoid a big part of the mess.

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    unsure how powerful your pc is. but i’ve heard you can achieve great performance on a vm using qemu. another option would be dual booting.

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      thanks for suggestion, but think that get me banned because anticheat detects it.😢

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      You can get really good performance in a VM if you can pass-through a GPU, which is a lot of tom-foolery or a second dedicated GPU since you can’t have it passed through and working for your host OS at the same time. BUT, most anti-cheat is going to either block the game from running in a VM or just ban you outright for trying to “bypass” the anti-cheat.

      All of this is even dumber when you realize EAC (which Epic makes) has Linux compatibility that other games use, but Epic specifically chooses to not allow in their games. I really think it is because they know it would only help the Steam Deck and Tim Sweeney really hates Valve.

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    This could be a good learning opportunity for your kids. Make them learn to use WinBoat 😀

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      Doubt the graphics is going to keep up in WinBoat enough to be playable, but even if it has improved that much in 3 months, it still isn’t going to make the anti-cheat work in a VM.

      Unfortunately, the best experience I’ve found (without installing windows on bare metal) for something like this is one of those game streaming services like geforce now or xbox game pass. You point your browser somewhere and play it with a bit of input lag. But both of those companies suck a whole lot, so I stopped using them (and I heard game pass is going to limit you to some absurd low number of hours per month, even on the top tier of game pass).