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Do you have a favorite in the series? Which one do you want try and what do you would avoid? Is there any alternative game series you prefer over Civilization?
Sid Meier’s Civilization Series: Wikipedia
- (1991) Civilization: MobyGames | GameFAQs | IGDB | Metacritic: - / -
- (1996) Civilization II: MobyGames | GameFAQs | IGDB | Metacritic: 94 / 8.6
- (2001) Civilization III: MobyGames | GameFAQs | IGDB |Metacritic: 90 / 8.4
- (2005) Civilization IV: MobyGames | GameFAQs | IGDB | Metacritic: 94 / 8.4
- (2010) Civilization V: MobyGames | GameFAQs | IGDB | Metacritic: 90 / 8.1
- (2016) Civilization VI: MobyGames | GameFAQs | IGDB | Metacritic: 88 / 7.3
- (2025) Civilization VII: MobyGames | GameFAQs | IGDB | Metacritic: 79 / 3.8
My story
I started with Civilization 1 on Super Nintendo. Amazing game, worked well with gamepad optimized port, but loading times were abysmal in late game. Won all matches by domination. Later played Civilization 2 on Playstation 1. Won all matches by domination too. This time loading times were even worse, to a point I stopped playing because of this. My next game in series was much later when Civilization 5 came out on PC, then later Civilization 6. Both great games. Its the first time I won by other means than domination and the loading times were not an issue anymore. Just purchased and downloaded Civilization 4, which I will try out after posting this.
Civilization Revolution was my introduction to the series. I havnt played it since 2010, but I loved it.
Now I play civ 6, have hundreds of hours, all the essential mods, and I think Ill play this version til I am dead.
Haha (not laughing at you, just funny the way you said it). Back when there was only 1 and 2, I thought I play 2 until the rest of my life too. :D I’m currently exploring the rest of the franchise.
I’ve played a few of them, but I loved playing Sid Meier’s Alpha Centauri (SMAC) the most. My favorite was playing as Gaia’s Stepdaughters since you could quickly get control of the planet’s “mind worms” which were units that would never go obsolete.
SMAC is the best Civ game followed by Civ IV. Civ III is the worst.
I may be in the minority, but Civilization Revolution on my iPad circa 2009 was my favorite thing ever. I liked that it wasn’t as complex as other installments and the mechanics were perfect for mobile device.
Then CivRev2 came around they stopped support for the first one. I hate CivRev2 because it shoehorned a 3d globe map and the mechanics got clunky. Just give me my first edition with bird’s eye view again!
I loved that game too! The simplicity was what made it so good.
4 and 5. They were simple enough, but had deep strategy, 6 added too much, also the art style is worse.
In retrospect civ games were just primers for factorio. The factory must grow.
They all just kinda felt the same to me.
I know four is a commonly referenced favourite, but I just couldn’t get into it. Beyond Earth on the other hand, was quite fun despite the hate, although didn’t have as much replayability or longevity.
Civ4 will always be on top.
A lot of it is nostalgia. It introduced me into the series, so I played a lot!
I even left my comfort zone and wrote after action reports and stories around running games in a forum.
The spinoff Colonization was strange, but fun too!
I am currently playing a play per mail game with a friend and I really miss this type of multiplayer in later titles.
Civ4 is A-tier.
Civ4: Fall from Heaven 2, Rise of Erebus, Fall Further, Mod Mods transcends S-Tier.Alpha Centauri is a distant 2nd. But still good.
I just saw the main menu of Civ4 has a Mod entry. Is this a thing with all Civ games (never checked this before, currently don’t want to download all games to check). I’m not modding Steam games usually, so not really familiar how this works. Is the ingame Mod menu compatible with Steam Workshop? Or is this its own thing maybe, to be compatible outside of Steam. I never put any emphasis on mods for Civ games, because they already offer so much, plus the DLCs. I usually think of mods either to fix an issue or to expand content, and none of this was ever an issue for me for Civ games (I’m probably more of a casual Civ player).
Since civ4 predates the steam workshop, I’m not aware of any compatibility between the mod menu and steam workshop. The mod menu is for more “simple” mods that make XML changes, but don’t need dll support. The mod menu may also support python changes, but i’m not an expert. Most mods however use their own launchers where they are able to use their own dll’s, python and scripting. Changes the purpose of the civ4 executable to simply be the game engine with much of the mechanical logic opened up to the imagination.
Fundamentally you have a single tile map and mechanics that compute on each turn along with a combat engine for the units. But despite those limitations, the breadth of mods is vast and hasn’t been matched in any of the future installments. (Cynically I think it’s a publisher decision to lock modding behind compiled binaries so that DLC can be sold, but technically I may wrong on that.)
The original “Fall from Heaven: Age of Ice” mod is actually an official mod of Civ4: Beyond the Sword. You can play it in the scenarios and that will give you a taste of what the vast world of “Erebus” modding looks like.
Thanks for explaining this. Makes sense that ingame mods are limited.
(Cynically I think it’s a publisher decision to lock modding behind compiled binaries so that DLC can be sold, but technically I may wrong on that.)
I don’t think you are wrong. I think lot of devs or publishers want to block mods, so their DLCs are more worth and can sell them better.
I haven’t played all of them but I would say Civilization III is my favorite. It has the classic elements in their most polished form. My dark horse, though, is Civilization Revolution for the Nintendo DS. While Revolution on the other platforms was basically a simplified version of Civilization IV, the DS couldn’t handle that and got an even more simplified 2D version. In simplifying it they really made the 4X gameplay crisper and more focused. They should release a version of that for mobile phones.
I mainly play on PC nowadays (well emulation is a thing, but for Civ I don’t need emus). Currently trying out Civ4 and Civ3 is on my todo list. Hmm if 3 is like a polished version of its predecessors, then I think that’s it, I will never touch 1 or 2 again probably.
Please use a different site next time
I don’t know why that is. There is an option to allow VPN users. I made sure VPN user is allowed.
Do you know any site for polls, that work well?
Good on you for enabling it! I don’t have enough experience to recommend a particular one, just search for “foss survey tool” or “foss survey maker” or something, then you at least know what’s going on under the hood instead of with Strawpoll blocking me even though you disabled this option.
One vote per IP.
Only took two exit node refreshes to be able to answer XD
Hmm. You only need to vote once, so one vote per IP should be not a problem. I don’t understand what the problem is. Last time I did a Poll, I excluded by accident the VPN users and nobody mentioned an issue by IP. Don’t tell me I fucked it up again. :D
Nope,I run through a permanent VPN, so it can say “You already did this” when I did not. An exit refresh works, just need to get an IP nobldy else used.
Same, I prefer to use a VPN everywhere. It would be nice to get away from straw polls and use polls directly from the Fediverse. PieFed and Mastodon allow for polls like this, but Lemmy still doesn’t support it just yet: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/787
Ah, I see. I have this issue sometimes when I use VPN to access YouTube with third party apps. I saw there was a separate option to allow one vote per IP. I could change that to vote per browser session, but don’t know if this works well or has other quirks too. I’m sorry for this.
My favorites have been Civ 2 Test of Time, Alpha Centauri, and 5. I also played a lot of 4 Colonies, but I would rank it a tier lower.
For the non mainline games, I’m interested into Beyond Earth. I completely forgot Test of Time being a Remake of the original second game.
Beyond Earth is good, it just has a big predecessor to live up to.
4 & 5 are pretty close, in my book, but 4 has a GOG release and 5 is still a cracked Steam copy rather than owned, so I pick the one they let me buy.
Well you can vote for 2 games if you want. Do you avoid buying on Steam entirely? Unfortunately 1 and 2 are not available on Steam, but there are other ways to play them anyway.
I’ve had a few “updates” forced on me by Steam that broke games, so I only buy DRM-Free with offline installers, now. I own Civ4 from GOG, Civ5 IIRC is a Tenoke pack I torrented.
Yes, that was one of the most terrible decisions of Steam to do forced updates. In old days it wasn’t forced, but someday they changed it to. I can understand this for online games, because they need to stay in sync. But for offline games, it shouldn’t be. Wish they differentiated that, its a really terrible thing. Probably the worst thing of Steam in my opinion.
I’m pretty sure you can rollback game versions on Steam too.
Some games have alternative versions, not necessarily old ones. In Steam game properties > Game Versions & Betas some games offer Beta versions, others a Nighly (meaning newest possible) versions, and some have older fixed versions. Most games don’t have it, and even if, you can’t just use any version you want.
Can’t you use Steam Depot to download older versions? It’s been a minute since I futzed with it.
I don’t know that. I thought that was for developers only. Edit: Found this relevant tool: https://github.com/SteamRE/DepotDownloader Note, I never tried this tool and have no experience. Ah yes, and the official documentation from Valve: https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/application/depots
Alpha Centauri definetely and it’s Alien Crossfire expansion
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