I’m not sure why you’re bringing up hydro so much. Yes, it’s a component in storage but so are batteries and many other forms of storage.
Furthermore, switching completely to renewables and utility-scale batteries shifts the bottleneck from building reactors to digging mines & building factories.
They already exist. A new nuclear plant, by definition, does not.
To overbuild that much infrastructure requires an astronomical amount of copper, lithium, and rare earth metals. Spinning up a single new large-scale mine from exploration to production takes 10 to 15 years due to regulatory and engineering hurdles.
Sodium ion batteries are perfect for grid storage applications with no rare earth components. Panels and wind turbines are being recycled.
It’s obvious you’ve made an emotional decision that nuclear = fucking awesome, and now you’re trying and failing to justify your stance.
Im bringing up hydro so much, since that the local renewable that drives BC, where i live.
I’m confused how you say that the facilities we would have to build to support the transition already exist, when by definition they dont, anymore than the nuclear doesn’t exist. We don’t have the resource extraction or manufacturing capacity for a full renewable transition yet, we are still building it. We can, and should, continue to use our current factories, but they are incapable of meeting the scope we will need as we transition.
Sodium ion batteries are perfect for grid storage applications with no rare earth components. Panels and wind turbines are being recycled.
Strongly agree, doesn’t change the facts.
Since you have decided to debate in bad faith, It’s obvious you’ve made an emotional decision that renewables = fucking awesome, and now you’re trying and failing to justify your stance.
Renewables are amazing, but we can’t risk slowing our transition by ignoring nuclear. Getting a grid to 70% or 80% renewable is relatively straightforward. Getting it to 100% is where the difficulty spikes exponentially.
We don’t have the resource extraction or manufacturing capacity for a full renewable transition yet, we are still building it. We can, and should, continue to use our current factories, but they are incapable of meeting the scope we will need as we transition.
If you’re going to make claims like this, at least back them up with some kind of trustworthy source. Globally we already have massive supply chains for storage, panels and turbines and have had for some time.
Since you have decided to debate in bad faith, It’s obvious you’ve made an emotional decision that renewables = fucking awesome, and now you’re trying and failing to justify your stance.
I’m basing my opinions on data. Studies such as this one:
Thank you for not even trying to discuss a single point Ive brought up, even as I address yours, really highlights our differences.
I’m sorry, but once you devolved to name calling, I really stopped caring about what you said. You’ve already revealed how you don’t care about facts. I’ve been consistently upvoting your posts during this debate until you reached that point.
I hope you have a good day, and stop standing in the way of a sustainable future before it’s too late.
Most of us are working to save the planet I’m an expedited fashion, with a goal of a transition away from carbon emitting sources as soon as possible, you are not.
I’m sorry, but once you devolved to name calling, I really stopped caring about what you said.
No, I cited sources, you did not because you can’t and now you’re taking your ball home. Pretty much every interaction with a pro-nuclear fanboy ends this way because you have no argument, just feels.
I didn’t downvote any of your posts, but I’m happy to return the favor.
I’m not sure why you’re bringing up hydro so much. Yes, it’s a component in storage but so are batteries and many other forms of storage.
They already exist. A new nuclear plant, by definition, does not.
Sodium ion batteries are perfect for grid storage applications with no rare earth components. Panels and wind turbines are being recycled.
It’s obvious you’ve made an emotional decision that nuclear = fucking awesome, and now you’re trying and failing to justify your stance.
Im bringing up hydro so much, since that the local renewable that drives BC, where i live.
I’m confused how you say that the facilities we would have to build to support the transition already exist, when by definition they dont, anymore than the nuclear doesn’t exist. We don’t have the resource extraction or manufacturing capacity for a full renewable transition yet, we are still building it. We can, and should, continue to use our current factories, but they are incapable of meeting the scope we will need as we transition.
Strongly agree, doesn’t change the facts.
Since you have decided to debate in bad faith, It’s obvious you’ve made an emotional decision that renewables = fucking awesome, and now you’re trying and failing to justify your stance.
Renewables are amazing, but we can’t risk slowing our transition by ignoring nuclear. Getting a grid to 70% or 80% renewable is relatively straightforward. Getting it to 100% is where the difficulty spikes exponentially.
If you’re going to make claims like this, at least back them up with some kind of trustworthy source. Globally we already have massive supply chains for storage, panels and turbines and have had for some time.
I’m basing my opinions on data. Studies such as this one:
https://www.lazard.com/research-insights/levelized-cost-of-energyplus-lcoeplus/
You are not.
Thank you for not even trying to discuss a single point Ive brought up, even as I address yours, really highlights our differences.
I’m sorry, but once you devolved to name calling, I really stopped caring about what you said. You’ve already revealed how you don’t care about facts. I’ve been consistently upvoting your posts during this debate until you reached that point.
I hope you have a good day, and stop standing in the way of a sustainable future before it’s too late.
Most of us are working to save the planet I’m an expedited fashion, with a goal of a transition away from carbon emitting sources as soon as possible, you are not.
No, I cited sources, you did not because you can’t and now you’re taking your ball home. Pretty much every interaction with a pro-nuclear fanboy ends this way because you have no argument, just feels.
I didn’t downvote any of your posts, but I’m happy to return the favor.