cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/51139260
The federal judge, who cited Dolly Parton in his ruling, found that the state law violated the First Amendment.
LOL, this should be the guiding principle that people need to tell people, especially those prone to conservative mindsets, and tell them all their lives, starting in kindergarten.
Don’t like atheism? Don’t be one. Same goes for being Wiccan/Muslim/Catholic/Mormon/Jewish, etc. Don’t want an abortion? Don’t get one. Don’t like university? Okay, don’t go. Don’t like men having sex with each other? Okay, you probably were not invited anyway.
And so on…but reiterate that you don’t get to interfere with others’ choices. Do this from childhood.
I’ve never been to a drag show and it’s not really on my bucket list, either…but if others want to go, that’s their choice. These busybody Karens need to find something constructive to do with their time.
Well if they left the behavior of consenting adults or parental guardians to their own discretion what role would the state have to play?!?!?
“Oh wait, they’re not actually forcing our kids to be drag queens?”
Can we also get, “Oh hey, the schools and other public outlets aren’t turning untold millions of our children queer?”
How about, “Teaching kids about evolution and slavery doesn’t make them hate white and religious people?” (Well okay, maybe they’d be a bit distrustful when they hear the truth)
Teaching kids about evolution
Most of the conservatives really do want to roll back all of the Enlightenment, and probably keep the Internet and smart phones and other modern conveniences (for themselves, mostly).
The idea of getting at the truth really does offend them, I think. Just look at how they argue about things, how they now attack facts (“alternative facts”, for instance) and science and education.
That was always an option
How about “Just don’t get an abortion”? No?
That stance will only ever resonate with those of us who already agree with you. Dumbasses liken abortion to murder - which it’s not - so they basically hear you calling for murder to be legalized and to leave it to the individual to decide whether or not it’s okay to murder.
You will not change their minds on this, because they think it’s part of their religion. Which is also incorrect, at least if we’re talking about Christians (no idea on the others). IIRC abortion is mentioned in the bible twice: once is basically accidental, dude injures a pregnant woman in a way that causes her to miscarry… and the biblical punishment for such a heinous crime? He owed her a fine. The second mention is a fucking how-to guide; dude thinks his wife is pregnant because she cheated on him, so he’s instructed to make poison by collecting shit off the temple floor and forcing his wife to drink it. If she miscarries, then she cheated! Burn the witch! If she doesn’t miscarry, then the kid is his.
Pretty sure that’s it. There’s the christian take on abortion. 'Course, we all know the culture surrounding christianity doesn’t actually adhere to its own lore. If some preacher hears Fox say it’s a mortal sin, then I tell you h’what, that thar’s a gosh darn sin!
For argument sake, my thought would be redirect that shit and liken it instead to triage. “Sure, that clump is a human, why not, but so is mom, and when shit hits the fan, mom takes priority” but… I’d guess even that approach is a waste of breath. They won’t hear it.
Which is also incorrect, at least if we’re talking about Christians (no idea on the others). IIRC abortion is mentioned in the bible twice:
I believe both those stories are from the “old” testament, which three of the Abrahamic religions include as part of their canon, so that would be Christians, Jews, and Muslims.
This reads like a cookie clicker news headline lol.
Judge strikes down ban on selling tobacco to children, tells people “just don’t smoke”
E: ITT: no counterarguments, only strawmen.
If you’re weak and impressionable enough to be threatened by drag queens, you may want to come to grips with your deep-seated urges to wear women’s clothing.
That’s not even remotely the same, and you know it.
Its exactly the same in a very important way. Individuals can go ahead and choose not do it but that doesn’t solve the problem.
What’s the problem ?
Problem is people exposing their genitals to children.
This is already illegal. Allowing drag shows doesn’t make it legal. Banning drag shows wouldn’t make it more illegal. If you think kid friendly drag shows are regularly exposing children to genitalia you are grossly misinformed. The basic premise of a drag show is about hiding their genitals.
Cite your source, please.
I love manufactured rage bait! So tell me about this widespread plague that has been infiltrating our culture. I’ve haven’t heard anything about it until now…
You haven’t heard about it because you just made it up.
Nice one, troll.
What the heck. I’ve been to my share of drag shows and I never saw any genitals. Can you tell me where the drag shows are with genital exposures? 😎
They can’t, because it doesn’t exist. Most states have restrictions on genital exposure in strip clubs. No way any drag shows are going that far, especially since they usually occur in bars or clubs.
OMG but what about all the children that are hanging out at bars and clubs at 9 o clock at night!
Tell me you don’t know what a drag show is with out saying you don’t know what a drag show is.
Found the guy who’s never been to a drag show
you really have never seen a drag show, have you?
It’s always projection with you people.
I’ve been to at least a dozen drag shows and there was zero sexual acts or genitalia exposed at any of them.
You have never been to one. Clearly.
You’re just here to throw your feces at people and stir up a bunch of emotions, because you’re a fucking sociopath who in my opinion shouldn’t be allowed to mingle with society at all.
One day humanity is going to realize that because stress causes physical damage to the brain and body, psychological assault is a real thing and should be a crime just like physical assault.
If your goal is to hurt people, I don’t give a fuck if it’s physical or mental. You should not be allowed to just decide to hurt people. For any reason.
You should be in a cage.
Look at all those genitals. THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
Also, these drag queens and the bar put on this show and then donated all of the tips and earnings as a fundraiser for a gentleman I worked with that was going through cancer treatment. Oh the humanity.
I have been to one once. I have photo and video evidence if you’d like me to share. It was in an 18+ bar and there was no nudity. Drag shows are entirely about crossdressing, not stripping.
Show any example where there was a drag show at a child friendly event, and if you happen to pull that off, show any example where they showed there genitals. You can’t, because that doesn’t happen.
You have know idea what the fuck you’re talking about, or you do and you’re arguing in bad faith and just being a bigot.
The Epstein regime does not care about children and you know it.
This isn’t about children, it’s about forcing heteronormative culture down everyone’s throats.
Your culture war is not about children.
Your fake concern isn’t fooling anyone. We have wised up to your bullshit antagonism tactics. We don’t care.
Say whatever you want, but know that we don’t give a fuck about you or your lies.
…no one is talking about “The Epstein Regime”?
We know. We know you guys want to forget about that whole Epstein thing.
We know you don’t care about evidence if it contradicts your world view.
We will remind you every time you play your bullshit games, that this is real life and in real life you choose evil.
Ironic coming from a guy who just showed his ass.
Who showed their ass?
There are no problems with drag shows.
The problem is that they make republicans aroused, cuz their only engagement with drag shows is what their searches for it on PornHub yield. And that makes them confused. And that makes them violent.
Key word trends on porn sites in red sates is a fun little rabbit hole.
Ah yes. “The problem” of freedom of speech.
Such an inconvenience for Nazis.
None of this has anything to do with free speech. You should argue with your homie who thinks saying mean things to people should land you in jail:
One day humanity is going to realize that because stress causes physical damage to the brain and body, psychological assault is a real thing and should be a crime just like physical assault.
Congratulations on a false equivalence between wanting to deny basic human rights to drag queens versus preventing truly oppressive behavior by those who want to rob others of their basic rights and freedom.
Something, something paradox of tolerance.
Having your feelings hurt because you can’t oppress the harmless freedom of expression of others isn’t the same at all.
Congratulations on not understanding the concept of an analogy.
Drag Shows are free speech.
You would know this if you cared whether you were right more than whether you feel right.
Facts don’t care about your feelings ;)
You can shove your problem where the sun don’t shine, bigot.
There is no such thing as “second hand drag shows”.
huh?
“Second hand smoke” is the smoke inhaled by people nearby a smoker. This has been found to be nearly as harmful as smoking. This means that parents who smoke around their children are harming them.
I sarcastically joked about “second hand drag shows”. There is obviously no such thing. If someone goes to a drag show, it doesn’t harm other people. This means your comparison between smoking and drag shows doesn’t work at all.
Agree to disagree, I suppose
There is no disagreement with objective facts. Nobody ever died from attending drag shows.
Those are simply not objective facts.
If so it should be easy for you to prove I am wrong. Go ahead. Cite your sources that drag shows kill people.
They’re not teaching you English very well at the Russian troll farm are they?
They sure are teaching this guy the art of nonsense babbling
You got me so good! Give yourself a pat on the back!
Does drag cause cancer now? I missed that memo.
I must have missed it too, where did you see that?
User strikes down introspection and reflection in the face of contrary evidence, tells people “it’s fake news”
My eyes! I can’t stop watching!
— you?
Stop watching what
