• [object Object]@lemmy.ca
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    This seems like a waste of resources to deal with.

    Very obviously speaking at lawful protest is legal, I expect a judge to throw this out.

    Unless they have real evidence he collaborated with hamas.

    To be clear, hamas killed thousands of innocent people, I do not advocate for them, but that does not excuse Israel’s treatment of civilians in Gaza.

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      1 month ago

      Oct 7 had less than 1000 civilian deaths btw, so not thousands. And i dont think they have killed enough before that to make it thousands. Just wanna stay accurate here.

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        You seemingly ignore the Palestinians that Hamas has killed. They are an oppressive regime, speaking out against them in places they hold power will get you tortured to death. When the ceasefire began, Hamas executed people in the streets to assert dominance.

        And you should know Palestinian civilians are not bullet proof from stray bullets fired from Hamas guns. And Hamas IEDs do kill Palestinians at times. They started a war of choice in a densely populated area and it’s impossible to avoid civilian casualties in urban combat.

        I think if you add up the Israelis and Palestinians Hamas has killed over the years, it’s fair to say they’ve killed thousands of people.

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        30 days ago

        Okay, fair, from Wikipedia

        • 195 civilians and security forces killed
        • 828+ civilians
        • 367+ security forces
        • 3,400 civilians and security forces wounded
        • 251 security forces and civilians captured

        But materially that doesn’t change things. Hamas specifically provoked a war this way. Then they did use civilian infrastructure for operations. They’re not innocent.

        But does that excuse the use of white phosphorous cluster bombs and levelling entire cities? No. Denying food aid? No.

        This war is incredibly asymmetric, the Hezbollah pager bombings show how deeply Israel has infiltrated these organizations operations. If they wanted they could have done this differently, even if it were more difficult.

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    30 days ago

    Supporting Hamas and contacting Hamas is a totally different thing than merely supporting Palestinian rights. You can will and should cop a charge for the former but of course not the latter.

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      But what is “contacting Hamas”? They’re still an administrative body. Did he contact the fire brigade? The health ministry? The law enforcement? The militant wing?

      That’s part of the smoke screen that Israel has thrown up when defining what Hamas is. It’s not just a paramilitary organization, it was the actual governing body of Gaza with several divisions that are far removed from the actual fighting.

      So when Israel says it’s killed 5 Hamas members, it actually killed traffic cops.

      Edit: Regardless, to keep in line with actual info from the article and the legal proceedings - the TPS basically followed him around due to his involvement in anti-genocide protests and supposed “hate speech” but wasn’t charged with that.

      They then contacted the counter terrorism office to conduct a raid on his home (mind you, still no charge) which they claim they found details of communication with a sanctioned group, which then applied the terrorism charge.