• Xerxos@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    The classification of cannabis changed to incarnate more black people. It’s a historical fact and it’s sad that many people don’t know that.

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    2 months ago

    It goes along with how they categorize cannabis as “drug” while alcohol for some reason gets it’s own special category.

  • FlexibleToast@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I don’t think those are “gateways” though. I think the real gateway is when you try something that you’re taught is vilified and told it will make you stupid and ruin your life, but then all it really does is chill you out. The gateway is realizing you’ve been lied to and you wonder what else was a lie so you try other things. Alcohol if anything has the opposite problem.

  • Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    Calling alcohol and nicotine the first substances that most people abuse when caffeine exists is the biggest win in propaganda history.

    • Soup@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Coffee isn’t really a mind-altering drug in the same way, and people take it for it’s effects recreationally. Getting drunk, though? It’s not for me, but people do that for fun, and then look to other ways to have fun in the same kinda way. All the sudden…

      • akwd169@sh.itjust.works
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        2 months ago

        No but people have said if you take ten wake me ups (caffeine pills) it feels like cocaine

        So this is what coke is like

        These caffeine pills dont do that for me anymore

        Maybe I should try coke

        Source: my social circle in high school

      • grue@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        I’m sure more than a few people have said “coffee ain’t doin’ it for me anymore; I should try cocaine or meth,” though.

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        2 months ago

        nobody has said it because the same person never sold both

        if you had to go to the ecstasy guy to buy your coffee too, then you’d be much more likely to try ecstasy as well

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            2 months ago

            imagine a scenario, coffee is illegal. you can’t buy it in a normal shop, but the same guy that sells every other illegal substance has it. and you have to go to that guy to buy some coffee

            even though coffee is not similar in its effect to any harder drug by going out to buy it you’re gaining the skill of obtaining illegal substances, and also put yourself in a place where you can get a variety of them

            as you’re buying your coffee your drug dealer tells you “try this, it’ll make you feel really good” and you know what? society’s already lied to you about coffee being bad, maybe they’re lying about the ecstasy thing too, you already trust this guy, he’s been selling you good coffee, so might as well try something new and exciting too eh?

            and to be even more blunt, what i’m trying to say is that it’s not the substance itself that makes a drug be a “gateway” it’s the way you obtain it

            if weed was perfectly legal and sold freely then it would not longer be a gateway drug, because as you try it you don’t gain the experience and skill of obtaining illegal substances, nor do you get placed in a position where you can grab something extra with your purchase

            • jordanpwnsyou@lemmy.zip
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              2 months ago

              Damn dude that’s a lot of text but I can’t take anyone seriously who thinks coffee can in any way shape or form lead to drug use lmao idc how well thought out your thesis is, it’s an insane hypothesis.

              Caffeine has plenty of health benefits also. Forcing the working class to rely on it to survive is bad, but whatever you’re saying is ridiculous.

              • SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works
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                5 days ago

                OK so you don’t know any truckers and the soccer moms are hiding it… check out the caffeine treats by the till next time you roll through a truck stop. Don’t buy any though, it’s brutal. So yeah stimulants are used widely, lead one to another as habituation and escalation kicks in and self-medicating goes off the rails for many.

              • shneancy@lemmy.world
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                2 months ago

                i suggest you actually read what i wrote, instead of making yourself look like a fool

  • RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    It made sense though. People would get weed from their dealer that’s laced with something else, now they’re addicted to meth or something. Now that marijuana’s legalized and I don’t need a dealer, that risk is gone.

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      2 months ago

      Weed doesn’t accidentally get laced with anything, and they sure as shit aren’t gonna give you it for free.

      Cocaine is laced (more like cut) with cleaning chemicals all the time to make it less coke and more clorox, which is considerably cheaper.

    • PM_ME_YOUR_ZOD_RUNES@sh.itjust.works
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      2 months ago

      I live in a small ass rural Canadian town and drug dealers lacing weed was never a thing. Is this shit actually common cause I always felt it was fear mongering. I’d be way more worried about cocaine and other shit like that.