

Learn to speak to be understood then. Your words painted yourself as an asshole that has no empathy. Your response has provided no evidence to the contrary.


Learn to speak to be understood then. Your words painted yourself as an asshole that has no empathy. Your response has provided no evidence to the contrary.


Human rights for everyone are just too inconvenient /s


After seeing how poorly people behaved during the pandemic, I just can’t believe that shaming is a useful tool. Antivaxxers were proud they were putting others at risk. That was not a small number of people. I knew individuals that could not even be shamed by those closest to them. I do not believe in shame as a tool for social change and the vague points you make about it do not fit with my actual experience. Not for individuals and sure as hell not for corporations or politicians.


You think the rich parents that will give their children these glasses are capable of shame? I don’t. Some will even be proud of it (see pandemic behavior, cybertruck owners, etc).


Even if they’re not mutually exclusive, the lion’s share is systemic. For parents that can mean access to healthcare, financial security, access to childcare, access to a good school, and a slew of other things. If people were able to change their finances reliably, there would be no poor people, etc etc… What’s the point of holding someone “accountable” when that maybe changes one or two parents. Even given a 100% reform rate (since I assume you want correction as opposed to punishment) you have to a) wait for deviance to occur b) catch the deviance c) take corrective action with both the parent and the child. Even if we assume only 1% of parents raise children that behave badly, there are two billion children in the world. If I were going to allocate resources to hold people accountable or to provide some sort of actual assistance to parents, 100% is going to the latter. So it’s not that it’s one or the other, it’s that one is useful and one is not.


Refusing to blame the people systems responsible means you can’t take steps to correcting that system. You need the incentives identified first.


At these supply rates kids can just get them without an evil corporation making them?


That argument sounds an awful lot like: look at what she was wearing. Victim blaming is gross.


It’s people’s own fault for being surveilled? For being stalked with flock cameras, for example? Just withdraw your consent and everything’s ok and capitalism collapses? If I’m incorrect in my interpretation of your words, please clarify, but in its current form I’m not challenged by it.


If you expect people to be better than they are, you’re going to be as disappointed in people as I am with your counterpoint.


Again, we aren’t going to suddenly become good parents as a species even if you’re correct. And blaming the parents gets us where? We have to change all the inadequate parents? Yeah right. Blame doesn’t get you anything but the ability to do nothing and feel superior about it.
Edit: Everybody that’s saying it’s the individual and not the system: same with cops? We can just tell them to be better and expect results?


A reminder to everyone blaming parents: these children are growing up in a world where privacy doesn’t exist, so how could they value it? Corporations are targeting them and influencing their opinions and changing norms with resources a parent couldn’t even dream of. Blaming parents is an individualistic solution to a systemic problem. We’re not going to suddenly get better parents anyway, sorry.
I tried to go back to on prem several years ago. The DC got bought up by IBM, service went to shit, and I was forced to migrate out of there, either to another of the IBM’s DCs or elsewhere. Waiting weeks for new disks to be ordered every time we started getting close to storage capacity for the DB isn’t a great experience either.