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  • Hildegard (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    24 days ago

    First statement is better. If you support universal trans medicine, unrestricted HRT for all ages, fully accept trans people’s gender, and oppose any and all transphobic laws, I’ll make you a laminated t-slur pass myself.

    I hope the second person goes for a long walk down a short pier.

  • Omega@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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    24 days ago

    To me, it’s simple. The first person, I can explain to them why saying “tranny” and “fag” is bad and hurts the shit out of me, and have a good conversation with them and feel confident that by the end of it, they will have learned something, be a lot more careful around those words and even perhaps, not use them at all.

    Whereas, the other person, sure they don’t call me slurs, but if they were to phrase things differently and actually do call me a “tranny” and a “fag”, I know for a fact that trying to talk to them about why that is terrible would be a fucking waste of my time that would only end up with them explaining to me in the most backhanded way why they are justified in calling me such.

    I’ll take poorly worded but earnest support over the thinly veiled disdain of polite society people any day.

    • acockworkorange@mander.xyz
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      19 days ago

      Urinals are great and I will die on this hill. I am quite annoyed that I can’t install one at home. Just label the doors “urinal” and “toilet”, no need to complicate things.

    • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
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      24 days ago

      I did a few stints as a janitor.

      Urinals and periods. That’s the grand reduction of gendered bathrooms.

      If we had dedicated period rooms and quickpiss booths we’d be more accurate as a society, but the reality is just that bathrooms as public infrastructure already accomplishes everything society needs in this regard.

    • Leon@pawb.social
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      24 days ago

      Gender specific bathrooms always weirded me out. What, is a lady toilet going to be scared of my dick? Will a man toilet go hysterical over some puss? It’s dumb.

      I think it’s worth keeping the urinals though, because some men are so emasculated by the idea of sitting down to pee, and while I think they should suck it up because that’s stupid, I’ll take having a urinal over them pissing all over the toilet.

      I say that as a cis guy that sits to pee and hasn’t used a urinal in his life.

      • Programmer Belch@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        24 days ago

        I prefer not sitting on a public toilet, better to keep my genitals far away from its surface. I usually go out of my way to avoid urinals but I don’t have that much distaste for them.

        • acockworkorange@mander.xyz
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          19 days ago

          There’s splashback, bifurcated streams, angles… Urinals are just better. Or at least decent ones are. And water-saving. Plus sitting feels like I don’t fully empty the bladder.

        • Leon@pawb.social
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          24 days ago

          Absolutely. Urinals are harder to miss though, and there are ways you can incorporate things to make everyone feel welcomed.

  • jbunnie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    24 days ago

    I swear the second one is worse than being blatantly transphobic. No, you don’t accept me, and no, it’s not just a difference in opinion.

    • dreamy (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      24 days ago

      Yeah, I find the first one much better than the second one as well. “What about the cis kids who will become trans??” is really much worse than using slurs, as the idea that gender identity/sexual orientation can be changed by external factors is pretty much the basis of conversion therapy.

      And people advocating for more regulation often don’t support actual medical consensus like the WPATH SoC. They usually support some shit like “No GAC under 25, and I don’t care if that’ll make children kill themselves.”.

      I’d much rather get called a tranny or some other childish slur rather than have some jackass put up a respectful facade while fighting to take away medical care from me.