• beyoublahaj@lemmy.world
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    26 days ago

    Can’t we just have small Linux boxes with Plasma Bigscreen or something with cec support setup so the tv remote still works already :sob:

    • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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      26 days ago

      Raspberry Pis have CEC support. I’ve used it with OSMC (formerly either LibreElec or RaspBMC, one of those? It’s Debian Kodi). It was much better without. So, if you turned the TV off with the TV’s power button, the Pi would turn the TV back on.

      The Pi has a 3.5mm audio jack. I have a set of desktop PC speakers that are hell and gone better than anything built into a television in the last 20 years. Not only is it not straightforward to get it to control the Pi’s audio output level with the TV’s remote via CEC, OSMC absolutely did not want to do this. Not only would that setting get revered to HDMI audio out, it would disable the analog out option, and you’d have to SSH in and change a config file to re-enable that option in the first place. That would happen either during updates or even just power cycles. I swear the phraseology of the line you’d have to put in that config file would change; the same line I’d put in there would still be in there and not working.

      The thing with open source software is, it’s always going to have the UX of a sinus infection, especially since the manufacturers of hardware gimp their devices to not work well outside of the walled garden.

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      26 days ago

      I’ve been using Pi 4s with a lineage OS build that has the Jellyfin Android TV client on it and thats been a pretty sweet setup.

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        26 days ago

        just a warning about jelly is that you have to setup your own home host site. plex already comes with one it youre hoping to listen to your music on the go.

    • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip
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      25 days ago

      Fortunately Roku is still not that bad. 3 rows of items to choose from, select and go.

      It basically is a dump app launcher if you go into settings and make it one. Even more so once you use a network adblock to stop the single ad they display on the right.

      • northernlights@lemmy.today
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        23 days ago

        They overload after a while I find and then often I press the arrow, nothing happens, I press again, it moves twice. Like all smart TVs. Apps take longer and longer to open, etc.

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    25 days ago

    Congratulations, you just made a copy of Apple TVOS, on much worse hardware.

    Love them or hate them, the Apple TV is the best streaming box around. I’ve got One and a shield tv, and the Apple TVs level of polish and performance is on a whole other level.

    • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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      25 days ago

      I haven’t used other streaming boxes lately, but I find this hard to believe, mainly because of the shitty AppleTV remote with the godawful touchpad that everybody decided to implement different gestures for and which is notoriously difficult to gesture properly with and only when intended to

      otherwise, I do agree that the AppleTV itself is quite polished. I use it for any streaming services that I may have, which is not many lately but was quite a few in the past, Plex, and YouTube primarily. also used to do some Zwift on it before I changed to using an iPad.

      besides the absolutely horrible remote that for some reason doesn’t have actual buttons for arrows and confirm, the rest of the experience actually is quite good and generally anything that is not is to do with the apps themselves. for example, Sportsnet is just a fucking terrible app no matter what platform you’re on.

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        25 days ago

        It’s ironic how the only place to reliably navigate back on an Apple device is through the Apple TV remote.

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        25 days ago

        The remote is shit, yes, and there’s an alternative to it. I can’t recall whether or not they’ve fixed that on the newer AppleTv remotes or not, but I detest that there’s no mute, either.

        That said, it’s still pretty good, especially compared to the alternatives. The Roku keeps enshittifying harder and harder

    • youmaynotknow@lemmy.zip
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      25 days ago

      Yeah, let’s get more close ecosystem shit. Stop buying things you can modify because you own them. Think of the executives, what’s wrong with you people?

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        25 days ago

        What?

        I’m just saying that Apple TVs are already a simple app launcher interface with basically nothing else.

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          24 days ago

          I can assure you there’s a whole lot of telemetry and tracking in those. It’s not “and nothing else.”

          Apple is the least awful about data privacy. Owning your hardware and stack is still better for privacy.

          *edit: others have bored this is still using Google hardware with only a custom launcher, not a unique firmware or os environment for data sovereignty. That Sudha, and the lettuce still remains that we need more open hardware vendors, or legislation that let’s us unlock our own purchased devices to modify further. *

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              24 days ago

              Right, this isn’t accommodating that, but I still contend that needs to be the goal.

              I dint own this device or an AppleTV, while I’ve owned both in the past.

        • Dumbkid@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          25 days ago

          Can I use an apple TV without an account? Arr there good YouTube apps with adblock, and how is the kodi and jellyfin support. If good I will switch

          • 123@programming.dev
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            25 days ago

            Jellyfin works well enough with swiftfin, but does have some annoyances e.g. subtitle and audio track support is tied to the player configured (native vs other).

            It’s the more reliable client app I’ve experienced as long as you stick to 1080p though. 4k is a hit or miss, but that could be my network or server (although I do direct play when possible, but it still has the occasional issues).