cross-posted from: https://kbin.earth/m/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com/t/3120649

As AI tech companies increasingly buy and destroy books to feed to their AI models, Anna’s Archive is calling for volunteers to help preserve them for the public record.

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    4 days ago

    destroying (A) physical copy. in order to copy the (1) copy of a book(which most new already exist as pdf). kinda like how people do it when they scan the book. which has been happening for decades now to make knowledge permanent.

    far cry from “destroying all books” which these rage bait titles suggest. we arent standing around a pit of fire.

    bigger tragedy is how humans seem shittier at communication as AI learns. probably a more accurate title.

    • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      4 days ago

      There are many, many non destructive scanning methods. My understanding is that most archival projects are using the non destructive options.

      The easy option is to just slice off the binding and run it through a scanner.

      The easy option is what is being talked about here, and those books are then fed into AI as training material. The digital copies aren’t “making knowledge permanent” as they are tucked away into a digital corner virtually no one has access to. They are as permanent as the source code for Fortnite.

      If a PDF already exists, as you claim, then why go to the trouble of obtaining, destroying and scanning the books again?

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        3 days ago

        There’s also Kobo… Kindle… epubs…

        Not just pdfs.

        Heck you can get audio books. Most books are now sold with recording.

        This has been happening for decades.

        Are all you people complaining here just not book readers and just here for pure out rage?

        • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          3 days ago

          Ok? That doesn’t answer my question, if anything it makes it more obvious how you are incorrect:

          If a [insert digital format name] already exists, as you claim, then why go to the trouble of obtaining, destroying, and scanning the books again?

          Your response reads like there are more options than just PDF, so it’s fine to destroy the books.

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            3 days ago

            They bought a copy of a book. They gonna do with it what they want. It’s their’s. Not your’s. Their’s.

            You didn’t buy it. And you didn’t care about it till now. Over something you didn’t buy. Someone else did.

            So now you are outraged they are making copies? This has been happening since copy machines were invented.

            You’re outraged they destroyed THE ONE COPY they bought? (NOT ALL. JUST ONE)

            They recycled rather than hoarded. Good for them.

            This happens every day since books and other things were invented to manage unwanted junk.

            If you want it go buy a copy and support the author, go for it. You want to recycle? Go for it. Both things are not illegal. Nor should they be.

            I don’t get your problem here. Seems like you’re too stupid to know what to outrage about.

            It’s like you discovered that dirt exists for the first time and how dare someone shovels dirt in some unmarked area you never even knew or cared existed to make a trench.